It’s time once again for our annual worldwide Urban Semiotic reader check in — if you are comfortable publicly sharing your answers — for the following three questions:

A Map of the World


1). Where in the world are you located and how long have you been there and how did you get there?

2). When, where and how did you first touch the World Wide Web?

3). Where in the world do you hope to be located in 10 years?

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  1. 1. i am located on what is called “planet earth,” this spot called Florida by most. i appear to have been flowed here by the powers in the universe. i could rationalize everything but that seems egocentric and rationalistic. i have been here forever or what the concensus view calls since ’76, came here in a van with my wife and three (at the time) children.
    2. My daughter, living at home needed a required computer for college. It helped flow me to the web.
    3. i don’t “hope,” but intuit it would be nice in “ten years” to be living in a world without borders, with most people, working their fair (for not just “fair” people) share of work for a middleclass existence, of 6 hours per year, in a world with no war or even “peace” which has always led to war, speaking languages wherin everthing is sacred and positive or beyond, previously called “heaven on earth.” “Some say that i’m a dreamer- but i’m not the only one” (“Imagine” by the “martyr” John Lennon.”)

  2. 1). Where in the world are you located and how long have you been there and how did you get there?
    I’m currently located in Georgia, just a few miles north of Atlanta. I’ve lived here for about 14 months, and got here from East Tennessee when I reclocated with my now-husband.
    2). When, where and how did you first touch the World Wide Web?
    Sometime around 1995 I was using a Lynx browser (ha!). I saw the REAL WWW in 1996 – it was beautiful (compared to Lynx)!
    3). Where in the world do you hope to be located in 10 years?
    Still Georgia, probably… probably even the same city… maybe a different house though.

  3. David- Moved here from north eastern Washington State, near the Idaho and Canadian border.was first ISP.
    If we remove “war” and “peace” and all dualistic terms which only lead to confusion because a so called opposit pair is as “close” and at the same time as “far” from each other as possible, we will eliminate rhetorical manipulation by politicians and others who use this quirk to their advantage, and the disadvantage of the many who accept this rhetoric. Example- why say “cold” when there is no such thing, there is merely less “hot.” All terms should be as close to the “satoric,” or “nirvanic” plane as possible, including their implications. “Peace” implies “war”. “Hot” should imply “less hot.” We live in a nirvanic state and are only drawn into lower levels like war and peace when we accept these words and concepts as viable.

  4. •Right now I am located in Fargo, ND; I have been here for approximately 4months. Came to U.S.A around late 2004 from India
    •I opened my first hotmail account back in 1993/1994; wanted to keep in touch with my relatives and friends who were settled abroad. Didn’t have my own computer, used to go to a cyber café to access internet
    •Where do I hope to be located in 10 years? – Anywhere, wherever I feel like…wherever my heart asks me to go

  5. Hi fred!
    Thanks for the update! AOL, I think, was the prime access point for many people when the web became popular.
    If we remove “peace” and “war” and “hot” and “cold” I’m not sure how we’re going to be able to communicate with each other.
    It sounds like you’re advocating a return to the Professional Euphemism where “garbage men” become “sanitation engineers” and those who create war are merely “improperly balanced love-makers.”

  6. Hi Katha!
    Is it cold in Fargo? Are you staying warm?
    Is the internet more readily available to everyone in India today or are the cafes still the main point of access?
    Your future sounds either vague or open — I can’t decide which!
    😉

  7. David- Part of what i’m attempting to get across is that dialectics is such a powerful tool, especially politically, that it was not allowed to be taught to anyone by Plato until that person was 50 years old and had “proven” himself “worthy.”
    In the satoric/nirvanic universe there would be no “garbage men” OR “sanitation engineers” but “seed planters” as this is what they really are. Most people are mainly concerned with what they can “get,” they don’t realise that what they get is determined by the seeds they planted in the “past”, including “garbage.” Politicians play both ends against the middle and use the “positive” and “negative” terms for garbage men to occupy both ends and the middle for themselves. This was the point i was trying to make a few days ago, about how the politicians replaced the natural bell shaped curve with the big M shaped curved as in Mammon, McDonald’s and especially McDonald Douglass.
    i would like war/peace/cold removed because they are political. “Hot” has some “real” “meaning,” as does “less hot.”

  8. David- It all has political tones. i’m attempting to remove us from Platos’s dialectic web so we can transcend agreement and not partake in his choices of agree(AK) and disagree (war). It is admittedly most difficult, as this trickster’s language has been handed down from the original trickster Hermes Trismagistus. i’m not attempting to win arguments, but move the world in the nirvanic direction which has no opposits.

  9. It’s not at all cold here in Fargo, David – in fact it’s unusually warm. Right now the temperature is 34 degree and it feels like summer. Though I am from a tropical climate, but I enjoy cold weather – I spent two winters in Wisconsin before coming here and enormously enjoyed the crispy cold sunny mornings – it revitalizes me! 😀
    Having internet access (mostly through dial up) at home is not a big deal for middle class Indians now a days, but having high speed internet at home is limited; people mostly depend on cyber cafés.
    My future is not vague and open but 10 year plan surely is. Because honestly speaking, future means 1/ 2 years to me; I can’t see beyond a year that too sometimes my plan changes after 6 months because of exigencies – so the plan for 10 years down the line sounds fuzzy and iffy to me, too.

  10. I am glad you are not freezing in Fargo, Katha!
    It will be interesting to watch how high-speed internet access affects freedom to information and work across the world.
    I understand your need to be ready to move on a dime from where you stand now.

  11. 1). Where in the world are you located and how long have you been there and how did you get there?
    I live in Utah, USA. I was born here; apart from brief stints in other states, I have lived here all my life. I’ve always thought it was a cosmic error and that I should have been born somewhere else.
    2). When, where and how did you first touch the World Wide Web?
    I started out on CompuServe in 1991, then moved to AOL back when it was the new kid on the block. I found the Web a fascinating place back then, and it’s become bigger and more fascinating every year since. More than that, it has become an integral part of daily life.
    3). Where in the world do you hope to be located in 10 years?
    The flip answer is somewhere with a milder climate. On a more thoughtful note, I don’t much care where I am as long as I am with my loved ones and we are healthy and safe. I certainly hope the world will be a better place in 10 years.

  12. icedmocha!
    1. Utah! Is it really cold there? How cold is cold to you? Is Utah a “dry” state or only parts of it? Are you a Mitt Romney fan or not?
    2. CompuServe! You spelled it with the big “S” too! 😀 I was on that service first, too. I must’ve first logged on sometime in ’83 on my trusty Kapro 2X!
    3. How mild do you want? CA mild or AZ mild?

  13. I am not freezing but there is something new – I have learnt to walk like a duck!!! 😀
    I think it’s because of the wind chill or whatever, the side walks on campus is extremely slippery with thin and transparent ice. NDSU campus is pretty big and walking from one building to another sometimes gets tricky, literally feels like a tight rope walking!
    There are people who can chalk out a plan for next 10 years and can stick to it – I don’t fall under this category. But one thing is for sure, I will do whatever I want to do and whatever makes me feel happy (a little tailored here and there) because that’s what is important at the end of the day.

  14. Katha!
    Yes, there is a certain mastery in walking on invisible ice and if you slip just a little, you’re on the ground. It’s quite dangerous, as you know, and really tough to navigate as you get older.
    I’m glad to know you’re motivated and open, Katha. that means good things will be welcomed when they come your way.

  15. Utah! Is it really cold there? How cold is cold to you? Is Utah a “dry” state or only parts of it? Are you a Mitt Romney fan or not?
    I think it’s cold (I’m shivering right now!), although there are certainly colder places. It’s in the thirties today, which is typical for this time of year. But under fifty is cold to me. Utah is not exactly a ‘dry’ state. Liquor is served at restaurants and clubs, and is sold at state liquor stores. Some beer is sold in grocery stores. Mitt Romney did a great job with the Olympics, but he’s not liberal enough to suit me.
    CompuServe! You spelled it with the big “S” too! 😀 I was on that service first, too. I must’ve first logged on sometime in ‘83 on my trusty Kapro 2X!
    You’ve got me beat.
    How mild do you want? CA mild or AZ mild?
    Southern Cal mild works for me: LA, San Diego. Arizona, at least the parts of it I’ve visited, is way too hot.

  16. icedmocha!
    Thanks for the detail on Utah. I’m with you on Romney. He can’t run from who he is, but to win and run he’s going to have to betray his beliefs. He might do it with crossed fingers but he won’t win it all in the end.
    I like the dry hot of Arizona. Not a lot going on underground. Nice and stable.
    😀

  17. Yes, I know – I have been there! The snow here starts melting in the day time and becomes some kind of slushy and by the time it’s dark it freezes again and the slushy becomes like a see-through smooth coat of ice – not funny!
    I am open David, sometimes happily, sometimes not so happily…well, what can you do except adapting? Que sera sera!

  18. 1). Where in the world are you located and how long have you been there and how did you get there?
    The hamlet of Welcombe, County of Devon, England. I moved here from Wiltshire just over 13 years ago.
    2). When, where and how did you first touch the World Wide Web?
    Just over 13 years ago – shortly after we moved here.
    3). Where in the world do you hope to be located in 10 years?
    Right here.

  19. 1) I live in Northern England and my family have since around the 19th century when they moved over from Ireland to work in the mines (or so the census would appear to suggest).
    2) I first touched the Web in ’99 at home through a 450MHz P3.
    3) I hope to be somewhere in the UK. 😛

  20. A warning? Why so???
    Isn’t that what people are supposed to do? Find their own happiness??? How come that becomes dangerous? Can you make others happy if you are not happy? Or, I am missing something here…?

  21. A warning? Why so???
    Isn’t that what people are supposed to do? Find their own happiness??? How come that becomes dangerous? Can you make others happy if you are not happy? Or, I am missing something here…?

  22. Yes, David – I know, that’s an individual’s choice. That’s why the words like ‘compromise’, ‘compassion’ and ‘cooperation’ are still there in the dictionary.
    Being ‘happy’ doesn’t mean being happy by bulldozing others…again, that’s a choice.

  23. Yes, David – I know, that’s an individual’s choice. That’s why the words like ‘compromise’, ‘compassion’ and ‘cooperation’ are still there in the dictionary.
    Being ‘happy’ doesn’t mean being happy by bulldozing others…again, that’s a choice.

  24. Hi David
    I’m in Argenteuil, near Paris in France. I’ve been here about 3 years and I got here from Morocco.
    I first touched the WWW in 1993. It was before web browsers really, mostly email, ftp and newsgroups at the time. I think I saw Netscape in 1994, loading up a Kodak site and waiting ages for pictures to come down. Maybe I saw Mosaic before that. I was a freshman at Warwick University in my home country (England) at the time.
    In 10 years I don’t really know where I hope to be, but it would be nice to be out somewhere more rural than Parisian suburbs.
    Happy New Year!
    -Fruey

  25. Hi David
    I’m in Argenteuil, near Paris in France. I’ve been here about 3 years and I got here from Morocco.
    I first touched the WWW in 1993. It was before web browsers really, mostly email, ftp and newsgroups at the time. I think I saw Netscape in 1994, loading up a Kodak site and waiting ages for pictures to come down. Maybe I saw Mosaic before that. I was a freshman at Warwick University in my home country (England) at the time.
    In 10 years I don’t really know where I hope to be, but it would be nice to be out somewhere more rural than Parisian suburbs.
    Happy New Year!
    -Fruey

  26. fruey!
    It’s so good to hear from you again!
    Ah! Paris! You are so lucky. How many languages do you speak now?
    ’93! An early start. Dial up was what back the? 14.4? Ack! Those were the good old bad days!
    😀
    Your future decade sounds wonderfully sublime!

  27. fruey!
    It’s so good to hear from you again!
    Ah! Paris! You are so lucky. How many languages do you speak now?
    ’93! An early start. Dial up was what back the? 14.4? Ack! Those were the good old bad days!
    😀
    Your future decade sounds wonderfully sublime!

  28. Hi David
    Well I speak French and English fluently, and I have a simple “survival” level of German and some Moroccan Arabic. So does that make 2 or 4? What about bits of Spanish and Italian (just useful everyday phrases)? My wife beats me hands down, speaking French and Moroccan Arabic fluently, plus other flavours of Arabic (Egyptian mostly) and Spanish and Italian without too much difficulty, better than my German.
    I wasn’t on dial up, it was a University campus network with some very low speed connection to elsewhere. My earliest modem was a 14.4 though, and I remember 28.8 coming out.
    We’ll have to see how the future goes, it depends a lot on success on some projects I’m hoping to be able to handle from anywhere I can get a net connection. Just depends on whether they make any money :-).
    -Fruey

  29. Hi David
    Well I speak French and English fluently, and I have a simple “survival” level of German and some Moroccan Arabic. So does that make 2 or 4? What about bits of Spanish and Italian (just useful everyday phrases)? My wife beats me hands down, speaking French and Moroccan Arabic fluently, plus other flavours of Arabic (Egyptian mostly) and Spanish and Italian without too much difficulty, better than my German.
    I wasn’t on dial up, it was a University campus network with some very low speed connection to elsewhere. My earliest modem was a 14.4 though, and I remember 28.8 coming out.
    We’ll have to see how the future goes, it depends a lot on success on some projects I’m hoping to be able to handle from anywhere I can get a net connection. Just depends on whether they make any money :-).
    -Fruey

  30. Well, fruey, I count you as having 6 language and your wife 5 — so you win!
    :mrgreen:
    Ah! A university should always have a better connection than that at home. 28.8 was still slow. 56k make a bigger leap in speed.
    😀
    What is the meaning of your blog title?
    What does “fruey” mean?

  31. Hides her head in shame ( first service provider was compuserve) – cringes . I was on long distance dial up – on a 2.6 baud rate modem ………….. the lowest of the low. Soon changed to Direct Connections which no longer exists – is now part of Clara.net.
    They went last year when we got broadband and now do everything through one phone line.

  32. Hi David,
    1. I’m in Hobart, Indiana — about 30 minutes away from Chicago in Northwest Indiana. I ended up here after graduating from law school in 1996 and meeting my future wife who lived in this city. I hadn’t planned on staying in Northwest Indiana after graduating, but meeting Jean influenced me to stay here.
    2. My first ISP was Indiana University’s VAX system. The first time I logged into the computer was from a terminal on campus in 1988 when I was a freshman. I didn’t know how to send email or do anything fun when I first logged on, but that didn’t last long after discovering IRC and campus newsgroups and all sorts of other fun things online.
    When I graduated from college, I signed up with Delphi because they were the first service to allow direct connections to the internet in 1992.
    I also had internet access via Indiana University after graduating because I worked as a temp for a year before I went to law school.
    I didn’t get a graphical browser until I went to VU and they started providing PPP connections in 1994 or so. Before then, it was strictly using Lynx.
    3. I’m assuming I’ll be in the same area — although I know I’m moving to another city in the area sometime in late spring or early summer. 🙂

  33. Outstanding stuff, Chris!
    How did you meet your wife?
    My high school, undergrad and grad school registrations were all done with terminal punch cards! No internet. No email. Even in the early ’90s Columbia didn’t have “The Internets” for anything more than searching library databases. My how times have changed!
    When do you anticipate your move? Are you buying all new furniture?

  34. Ok, correct me if I am speaking in circles here.
    Is compromising a hindrance of happiness?
    I can say from my personal experience that sometimes I compromised with certain choices in my life – those made others happy and seeing others happy I felt happy! 😀
    What was that?

  35. You are right, I used the word ‘happiness’ becuase I saw others using it.
    I wanted to know the basis of it. Probably it doesn’t have any…I am not sure.

  36. You are right, I used the word ‘happiness’ becuase I saw others using it.
    I wanted to know the basis of it. Probably it doesn’t have any…I am not sure.

  37. Right David!
    I am not a blind follower but I definitely don’t discard any idea just because I can’t relate with it – I try to see where it is coming from.
    My nature is such that I will find happiness just seeing a sunny morning even if I am in the midst of a desert and lost. That’s probably more of a defense mechanism that life taught me.

  38. Right David!
    I am not a blind follower but I definitely don’t discard any idea just because I can’t relate with it – I try to see where it is coming from.
    My nature is such that I will find happiness just seeing a sunny morning even if I am in the midst of a desert and lost. That’s probably more of a defense mechanism that life taught me.

  39. Hi David,
    My wife and I met through some mutual friends.
    The world is a small place considering how someone you know might know someone who knows someone across the world. The Urban Semiotic world shows how people from all around the world can develop connections and friendships.
    I remember seeing punch cards when I visited my dad’s office back in the 1970s and ’80s. I also remember getting huge printouts of Snoopy characters in Xs and Os on greenbar sheets from the computer gurus in the old days. They were pretty impressive during those days.
    I’m hoping we can get by on the furniture we have right now when we move to the new place.
    We’ve been paring down the extra stuff in our house to make it more appealing. (We’re going to move other stuff to a storage unit sometime soon also).
    I suspect we’ll be buying some trees and sod as our first beautification project after closing since the city requires a certain amount of landscaping within a certain period of time after the house is built.
    The ground hasn’t been broken yet, but we just spoke with the designer and selected items for the house and where certain things should be placed, like phone jacks and television cable outlets, etc. I suspect that the ground will be broken soon and the concrete basement poured if the weather keeps staying warm.
    Once the work starts, it should be about five months before the job is completed.

  40. Neat, Chris!
    What are the rules for “beautification?”
    New House = New Furniture. WAIT AND SEE!
    :mrgreen:
    Get more power outlets and phone outlets than you think you would ever need and then add ten more. Get lots of power for future expansion.
    Call Verizon RIGHT NOW to get FIOS built into your house from the jump!
    Yes, punch cards are charming and the “young kids” have no idea what we’re talking about: We were “hanging chads” long before Al Gore even knew what they were!
    As a youngster my friends and I used to sneak into the UNL “computer room” — one big room with one big computer — and type on the keyboards and punch cards. Gosh, it was fun and no one ever bothered us even though we were probably 12. Never happen today.

  41. Right David!
    Everyone speaks from their own perspective and it’s their own experiences which help shaping it.
    The calm, composed and rational state which you are describing is something that everyone should attain – but few can do it – at least I know I can’t.

  42. Hi David,
    FIOS looks interesting.
    We’ll be moving from Verizon’s territory to SBC’s, so I’ll have to see what they have available over there. I know someone who works for SBC, so I might have to ask if he knows anything about FIOS and if there are any deals to be had.
    (I did a check using AT&T’s system and they can’t find my address — probably because the house isn’t there yet. The website suggested checking if Yahoo High Speed was available).
    I did see a wireless internet service’s antenna on a telephone pole in the area, so there’s wireless internet available.
    I also read someplace that the city is offering free wifi — but I think it is limited to their downtown area.
    Maybe I need to get a petition started to have Google roll-out free wifi in the neighborhood. 🙂

  43. Hi, David and all who read here.
    In the physical world I live in Crestline, CA. which sets at 5000 feet high in the San Bernardino Mountains of southern California. Jerry and I have lived here in Crestline almost six years—in southern California 48 years. There was a need for a Christian school teacher in Pasadena, CA., someone called Jerry, and here we have remained. There is no perfect place on earth, but California in general, and Crestline in particular are magnificent and probably as close to perfect as any place on earth.
    I arrived on the world-wide web about six years ago, via AOL—a pitiful entity. In February of 2006, I found WordPress, (or maybe they found me–not sure) and established my own blog. I began blogging as a lark, but unexpectedly I had lots of responses, found it to be a delightful activity, and now feel a bit of pressure to produce something worthy every day.
    David, is Heaven in the world?
    In ten years, maybe I want to be in Heaven; maybe not. I believe that Heaven is real, and I plan that my final home will be there, but it’s a funny thing about us who believe in Heaven, those who consider how glorious and trancendent Heaven is: we don’t want to go tonight. Strange, huh. For going to Heaven at this point, would necessitate my dying…and I don’t want that just yet. However, why should I feel that way when Heaven is so much better than life here on earth?
    So, my final answer to the last question is:
    In ten years I want to be in Heaven if God has taken His people there as a group. If in ten years life on earth continues generally as it is today, I want to be alive and living in Crestline.
    Probably the most convoluted and unclear answer of the day.
    Hope and joy!
    Shirley

  44. Chris!
    It sounds like you’re on top of it! Don’t give up on FIOS, though! You’ll get TV and phone and SUPER high-speed internet connectivity on one line and it kills the similar cable setup because it is faster and more reliable. It’s worth begging Verizon to get the service.

  45. Wow, Shirley!
    I think you get the award for “Most Deeply Fascinating Comment of the Day!”
    I think California is a wonderful place to live. I am quite familiar with Los Angeles and I love the agriculturally centered reality of Sacramento: You feel like your airplane is landing in a farm field!
    Heaven is not of the world! It is beyond the bounds of the earth and rises above the restrictions of a common globe!
    I sure hope you’re still with us in a decade, Shirley, because we surely need more people like you right here on earth!

  46. David,
    Sorry I’m on GMT+1 so I couldn’t get back to you in realtime.
    What is the meaning of your blog title?
    “Let’s Have It” was a phrase a friend used a lot in my heady college days, an exclamation of joy or surprise mostly. It probably has too many personal resonances to be meaningful to describe what my blog is about, but I did try to better sum everything up in the subtitle “An eclectic mix of technology, news comment, and personal notes”. It’s difficult to change a blog title once it’s there, and a bad idea unless you need to really change direction.
    Caperet, the domain name, comes from Fermat’s last theorum (from the latin margin note). I wanted a domain name in less than 8 letters, and let me tell you it’s a challenge to find one that you can add a story to. Oh, and who else do you know who comes first in a Google search for a single word?
    What does “fruey” mean?
    Fruey comes from the good old days back at Warwick and my first encounter with internet email (there was a closed email system called Ebenezer in my senior school from when I was about 14 years old, c. 1989). I signed up for an account on a UNIX based terminal on a server which was dedicated to account creation, and I got “fr” (for faculty of French studies) “u” (for undergraduate) and “ey” (two random letters). It stuck with me, because you can sort of say it. Funnily enough, my group email where I work now for the team I manage can be pronounced the same, but it’s written frui (and stands for French User Interface).
    -Fruey

  47. 1. Sonoma County, California, about 45 miles north of the Golden Gate. My family moved here when my father retired from the U.S. Air Force in 1976. I went to college in suburban Los Angeles for two years (1979-81) and lived for two more in the San Joaquin Valley (1984-86), but other than that, I’ve been here.
    2. I joined the online world when I bought my second computer — an Apple Mac Performa — in 1995. My first ISP was Apple’s short-lived eWorld service, which died (and transferred its membership to AOL) about six months after I got online.
    3. I’ll settle for “alive and well.”

  48. Outstanding, Swan!
    California is beautiful country. You are so lucky to live in that fab-o state.
    I’ve never heard of eWorld! Cool! I’m now a MacHead for life after buying my MacBook Pro six months ago.
    Alive and well is — fair enough.
    Oh, and in addition to my Sog I now have several others: Onions, Leeks, regular Kershaws and even a couple of Gerbers! Huzzah!
    😀

  49. David – If you’ll pardon my tenacity, I’d agree that you answered #2, and I’ll concede on #3, although I can’t be sure you’re not kidding about AZ. But #1? Unless I’m guilty of really not paying attention, I don’t think you touched on it.

  50. Hi icedmocha —
    The answer to #1 is Jersey City! We’ve been here a month before the World Trade Center fell.
    #2 — I’ve been online since ’83.
    #3 — I’ll be on the East Coast most likely in New York again and perhaps less likely in upstate New York.

  51. I live in Utah, about 40 miles south of Salt Lake City. I’ve been here since about 1980, when I went to college here and married a local girl. Before that I was from a little town in Massachusetts — though I lived in the California Bay area for a few years too.
    I’m trying to remember when I first went online, it must have been the early 80’s when I used Compuserve at work to manage projects my company had in “beta”. When the division I worked for merged our PC division with the Unix one, I saw Mozilla on a Unix box, got “internet” access and have never looked back.
    In ten years I’d love to be splitting my time between my house here in Utah and a place on the beach in Costa Rica.